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COAH : height of hubris and offensive

In COAH, Ridgewood New Jersey on January 5, 2009 at 2:45 pm

Even if the VC was hoping to get “offset” agreements with other towns, they should have had a well thought out “Plan B.”

As for having state politicians mandate that a community make it affordable for a designated, less affluent, socio-economic population to live amongst it, is the height of hubris and offensive.

I want to live in Tuxedo Park. Do you think they’ll be building “affordable” housing for me to live there any time soon? Affordable; being relative to the price of homes in Ridgewood versus Tuxedo Park.

This is another example of liberal social engineering at its worst. Are we to believe that there aren’t enough homes in communities that would be more compatible with the socio-economic circumstances of the people the state proposes to help?

This kind of social engineering defies capitalism and destroys the incentive for people to get ahead. People work hard to save enough money to buy a home in communities like Ridgewood. Often their first homes were in far less affluent communities. Having succeeded in life to the extent that they can now afford to live in Ridgewood, why should they be asked to subsidize others to do the same?

What’s next, shall the government mandate that a certain number of luxury cars be subsidized by those who purchase them at full price for those who couldn’t otherwise afford them?

Heck, I think I’ll just stop working and go live in one of those “affordable” housing units we’re building. Think of the taxes I’ll save while enjoying all the amenities the village has to offer. Maybe by the time these apartments are built they’ll give me a new Cadillac to go along with it.

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  1. 144 south maple has some prettyy cheap apartments ,why build another monstosity

  2. Liberals get what they VOTED for!

  3. Let’s have accountability from the following people. I pasted this in from a previous posting. These are the people who tried to slide this whole thing through without asking the villagers what they thought. This is outrageous.

    Planning Board Members:
    David Nicholson – – Chairman
    Albert Pucciarelli – Vice Chairman
    David Pfund – Mayor
    Ann Zusy – Councilwoman
    Morgan Hurley
    James Bombace
    Anne Ward
    Nick Tsapatsaris
    Charles Nalbantian
    Richard Barclay – Alternate Member
    Thomas Riche – Alternate Member

  4. tried to slide this whole thing through without asking the villagers what they thought.

    This is a representative democracy. As such, aren’t the COAH members supposed to make decisions that think are in the Village’s best interests, without asking for input on every single decision?

    If you don’t like COAH decisions, then vote out the Village Council members in the next election.

  5. This Village has been dealing with the issue of COAH obligations since the 1980’s. It is a sensitive and complex area. Because of the threat of litigation by COAH or private developers, rigorous public debate can be dicey and in fact impair the Village’s position if we get sued. You need to let our elected officials handle this–and hold them accountable for the results.

    The NJ Supreme Court’s Mt. Laurel decisions are a prime example of the dangers of an arrogant activist judiciary. Aside from being a boon to a few developers who have profited from the Court’s stupidity, these decisions have done nothing but contribute to suburban sprawl and force towns into poor planning decisions.

  6. “It is a sensitive and complex area. Because of the threat of litigation by COAH or private developers, rigorous public debate can be dicey and in fact impair the Village’s position if we get sued. You need to let our elected officials handle this–and hold them accountable for the results.”

    So it’s okay to screw all the residents of South Broad Street and the entire Orchard School community because the Village MAY have been sued if someone didn’t get screwed? What bizarre logic.

  7. 11:23…

    Dop you even know what COAH is? COAH is not a group elected by Ridgewood residents, and voting the Village Council in or out has nothing to do with COAH. COAH is the Council on Affordable Housing, which was created by NJ state legislators in 1986. It was the result of a bad decision by the Supreme Court then and continues to be a bad idea today, not unlike the Abbott Districts Funding Law that affects our education dollars. The policies set by COAH are the root of the liberal “social engineering” referenced in some other posts. If you are agnry about these policies, direct your anger at Trenton.

    The post at 11:49 is well stated.

  8. “You need to let our elected officials handle this–and hold them accountable for the results.”

    Keith Killion cast the only “no” vote on this outrageous plan. Everyone else should be voted out when their current term expires.

    Remember, vote out Mr. Aronsohn, Mr. Mancuso, Mr. Pfund, and Ms. Zusy.

  9. The court decision should be appealed at the federal level.

  10. The Village should join with other municipalities and file a class action lawsuit against the State of NJ in Federal Court.

  11. And leave the prosperity to those who know best what to do with it

    Thank you for taking time from the House of Lords to impart such wisdom to the unwashed masses.

  12. LOL, at the snideness of 1:30. No wonder people hate Ridgewood. It’s jerks like this who give our town a bad name.

    FYI: my parents were professionals as were my grandparents. But if you want to call me blue collar, that’s OK. Blue collar folks made this country the great nation it is today. Unlike you pretentious blue-bloods who have wrecked havoc with our economy through your avarice greed in the financial markets, stupid feel-good social policies and sense of entitlement due to the manner born. Pride goes before the fall.

  13. Although we have already seen similar lawsuits get defeated (Mount Olive etc.) I think we should see if Ridgewood and some other towns challenge the State. The real problem lies with the judges and there we have a bunch of social engineers that feel they can legislate from the bench in order to achieve their view of society. We should fight it wherever we think there is a chance. As for our Village council, I don’t see how they have many choices given the tyranny of the State being forced on us.

  14. This is New Jersey. In Ridgewood may think highly of ourselves, but the rest of the country looks down on us. On vacation I was asked what it was like living in “Dirty Jersey”.

    Blue Bloods? You must be joking.

  15. “You need to let our elected officials handle this–and hold them accountable for the results.”

    This translates to: they know better then we do. Don’t discuss or debate. It is easier for them if the residents would just bud out.

  16. “You need to let our elected officials handle this–and hold them accountable for the results.”

    This translates to: they know better then we do. Don’t discuss or debate. It is easier for them if the residents would just bud out.”

    —–Since you quote me I will correct your “translation”. I frankly don’t know if the current planning board and village council know best or not. I actually do have some doubts. But I do know from having been involved many years ago on a professional basis in advising municipalities on their fair housing obligations when this whole concept first arose in the 1980s that the legal analysis and strategic judgments that are required to manage this issue are best undertaken in executive session. Open public debate on site selection in this context was probably deemed unwise by our elected and appointed officials and it is my obeservation that this is consistent with the way the issue is handled in many other municipalities.

  17. “Open public debate on site selection in this context was probably deemed unwise by our elected and appointed officials”

    Whatever works for them, I just live here.

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