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Bring back our Christmas

In Uncategorized on December 7, 2008 at 3:47 pm

Dear Mr. (Santa) Bolger,

Please save us from the Village Council. We need a natural Christmas tree back at the end of Ridgewood Avenue. The idea of going green and placing the tree in the park was a good one, however it didn’t work.
We have a year before the next lighting, plenty of time to fix this. Please Santa you have to save Christmas for the Villagers!!!!

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  1. I disagree. The tree is small compared to the temporary trees in years past. However, it will grow every year. The location was much more open and allowed a larger number of people to feel “connected” to the event. The old configuration was far too congested and felt like Times Square on New Year’s Eve. Don’t go back to the old location. There are a few things that could be done to improve the event, however.

    1) The stage was facing the wrong way. It should face Ridgewood Ave, so that the people naturally flow from the street into Van Nest Square. This would also benefit businesses that remain open along Ridgewood Ave. This year’s configuration acted like a barrier into the square…poor planning.

    2) The stage needs to be raised at least 6 feet. Unless you were standing in the first couple of rows, you could not see anything on stage. This was a particular challenge for children. Do a little planning and calculate the stage height necessary to make the FOOT of the stage clearly visible from a height of approximately 5′ at a distance of 150′ from the stage.

    3) I never saw Santa during the tree lighting event. Maybe we missed it. But, if it was moved to a Saturday event, for the kids sake, bring Santa back for the tree lighting.

    4) 7:30 is too early on a Friday night. 8:00PM is the earliest that this should be scheduled on a business day, out of consideration for those who work in NYC. I ended up eating dinner with my wife at 9:30 at night.

  2. …point of clarification to 11:50 post. Suggestion #1 also requires that the stage be moved to the opposite side of Van Nest Square from Ridgewood Ave…

  3. Once again PJ a typical Ridgewood Blog comment. What was it 2 or 3 months ago everyone was on here slamming Mr. Bolger and telling him to take his money and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Now they are back at it again begging him to spend his money for the Village. It really is amazing!!! I love it!

  4. I couldn’t disagree more. The “Times Square” feeling is what was made it special. The whole village huddled together at one end of the street to listen to music and count down the lighting. After which folks walked down Ridgewood Avenue, visiting with on another and shops. There was a destination as the crowd moved East to the park to visit Santa and look at the ice sculptures.

    The tree at the Broad Street centered the town. One could see it lit from either direction when driving into town on Ridgewood Ave. Now there is a void where the majestic Christmas tree once stood decorated in red bows and lights instead of garbage. I mean who’s idea was it to use plastic bottles to decorate the tree. That isn’t “green” it is stupid and beyond PC. We already recycle plastic bottle, so what statement is being made.

    I think the whole thing stinks to high Heaven. I want my town back and I want our Christmas tradition of lighting the tree in the middle of town back.

    I don’t think the old VC would have bought into this stupid idea. This is the work of Killian and Zusy.

  5. Are you daft 5:18, that post was sarcasm referring to Bolger.

  6. The natural live tree is so superior to a cut, dead tree, so much more environmentally friendly. Who cares it if is a little small – it will grow every year. Congratulations to Keith Killion for bringing us into the 21st century by coming up with this great suggestion. I am absolutely delighted that Ridgewood is using a living tree.

  7. There is NOTHING that can be done to fix this destruction of an old and lovely Ridgewood tradition that would keep the tree lighting in the park.

    All the stores on E. Ridgewood ave by the train tracks are SHUT OUT of the celebration.

    As they say in real estate —

    LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION!

    Hey, VC you screwed up big time.

  8. 5:18 it’s clear to all that the Bolger comment was a joke. Are you really that dense? “It really is amazing!!!” Geesh. What are you, a sycophant?

  9. I think, besides the whole going green phenom, it’s a great idea to save money. Instead of the costs of transporting a tree in every year, the town will have a tree they can watch grow as the years go by.
    I understand change is hard for some people to swallow, but the current location (albeit not one you can see from all angles) is better for crowd control in my opinion.. The event could have been better situated, but that’s why the blog is here.. maybe someone will take the suggestions into consideration for next year! Merry Christmas Everyone!

  10. The park with a living tree is absolutely the best and most appropriate place to have the tree lighting. Having a dead cut tree up by the busy parking lot~intersection~train tracks was hardly peaceful or beautiful. The park is a lovely place, the tree will grow for years to come, the whole evening was terrific. Thank you to the Village Council for this VERY SENSIBLE change in venue.

  11. How can anyone in their right minds think there was anything wrong with Friday night? It was beautiful, the park is a perfect setting, the tree is plenty large and will grow large. HURRAY for the new tree lighting scenario. It works for me!

  12. The comments on the ornaments of plastic bottles and other recycled materials are out of line. The ornaments were student made from the different schools in the district.

    I know my daughter and many other kids were searching the tree for their ornament on the tree — making it a true community Christmas tree.

  13. I see the VC has mustered their sycophants to support their disastrous decision to move the Christmas Tree lighting and decorate it with garbage made by grade schoolers.

    How very PC of you all. Gee I wish you would move back to Manhattan.

  14. Anonymous said…
    The park with a living tree is absolutely the best and most appropriate place to have the tree lighting. Having a dead cut tree up by the busy parking lot~intersection~train tracks was hardly peaceful or beautiful. The park is a lovely place, the tree will grow for years to come, the whole evening was terrific. Thank you to the Village Council for this VERY SENSIBLE change in venue.

    9:17 PM

    Was there some reason why they couldn’t plant the new tree on the site of the old? I obviously agree wholeheartedly with planting a tree as opposed to cutting one down every year, but I also agree with those here that the old location was the most appropriate. It was lovely walking up Ridgewood Ave and seeing it standing beautifully in the distance.

    If it’s any consolation to those unhappy with the change, the tree, with care, will not only grow every year, but will continue to take on the spirit and energy of the those who celebrate the Season.

  15. Plastic bottles on a Christmas tree is very, very tacky. Children are vulnerable to any kind of crap passed on to them by their “teachers” in public school. Tell them that garbage can be an ornament and enough of them will simply go along. That is why they are children and not responsible (in the legal sense) for much of what they say and do.

  16. Trees grow and die. Trees grow and die. We cut them down and new ones grow.

    Please people, your phony environmental concern for having cut down a tree is moronic.

    I want the tree back in the muddle of town for all to see.

    This new one is fine, keep it and decorate it with plastic bottles every year for all I care. But I want red bows and a BIG tree lit at the intersection of Broad and Ridgewood Ave.

    Give us back our traditions you sanctimonious jerks at Village Hall.

  17. Unbelievable.

    Some people around always need to find SOMETHING to complain about.

    Let’s hope the tree-bashers get coal in their stockings this year.

  18. Anonymous said…
    Trees grow and die. Trees grow and die. We cut them down and new ones grow.

    Please people, your phony environmental concern for having cut down a tree is moronic.

    True, trees do grow and die. Some trees also live to be older than any age we’ll ever see.

    What about the expense every year of having a tree carted over to Broad and Ridgewood Avenues and decorated? I would think a tree that finds a permanent home there would cut down (no pun intended) on some of that expense.

    As far as the plastic bottles are concerned, I would rather see them recycled than hung on a Christmas Tree, but I do appreciate the concept of having the children create something that will be proudly on display in the community.

  19. in the old days the trees were donated so whats the cost savings?

  20. Anonymous said…
    in the old days the trees were donated so whats the cost savings?

    10:56 AM

    If I recall correctly, I thought the tree was donated. But, I’m unsure if everything that goes along with it being there is donated. If not, I’m sure there has to be expenses that go along with, transporting, lighting and decorating a tree of that size.

    In any case, it’s intention was to celebrate the Season and I think that’s more important than where it was placed.

  21. No Tracy, where it is placed is very important. Symbols are important. There was a reason that the Christmas tree was placed at Broad St. and Ridgewood Ave. It is literally the middle of the town.

    Now, no one sees it now hidden in the park. If you look for it while driving down Ridgewood Ave, you are likely to get in an accident for having to take your eyes off the road in your search to find it in the park.

    As for saving money… oh, please if we can’t afford the transportation of a tree once a year, then we got way bigger problems.

    This is just another step to minimize and marginalize Christmas as a Christian Holiday, the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, by our local government.

  22. I have to agree with the people that don’t like the new location. However if we were going to move it to the park, could we at least put the tree somewhere it can be seen. I also have to complain about garbage being hung and pretending it look nice. IT DOES NOT LOOK NICE! It looks like garbage. That is my biggest complaint. While I preferred the location where everybody could see it, the garbage has got to go. The tree that is decorated right now at the train station that is decorated would make a better location. Finally, I walked through town last night and the tree did not have the lights on. I sincerely hope that was a mistake and not some stupid green idea that means we can’t have lights on our tree turned on.

  23. I agree – some people will complain about ANYTHING. It is pitiful – who could really say anything bad about that lovely tree in the beautiful park in our downtown shopping area? Who in their right mind would complain about hand-made ornaments? Geez, move on to something substantial to complain about.

  24. The whole point of a Christmas Tree is that one gets a tree and brings it home. How many people have a pine tree growing in the living/family room that they decorate come December?
    It was always a big deal when we got our village’s tree put up. It was just like getting a tree for one’s home. The Ridgewood News would write a story, accompanied by a photo, about where it came from, who donated it, how tall it was etc.

    Then there was the charm of seeing the tree go up and then decorated. Now, all that is totally lost along with the magic of the streets being closed, the shops open, the musicians playing on the sidewalks and in stores and banks, and the natural progression of the crowd from the train station to the park to see Santa and the ice sculptures.

    Ridgewood just lost another part of what made it so charming.

    So what’s next, is the VC going to cancel the baseball parade and insist that the RBA just hold an event at Vets field to save money?

    Hey, while we are at it, if we are looking to save money, why not get rid of the 4th of July parade too. I am sure we would save a bundle of money not having to pay for the extra police or the sanitation crews to clean up afterwards.

    As a matter of fact, we could save money by getting rid of rear yard trash pick-up too. Let’s see, maybe would could hire less police and go to an all volunteer fire department like so many of our neighboring towns. We could shorten the hours at the library, sell off Habernickle Farm, let out advertising space on the front of Village Halland on the back side of the score board at the high school. We could raise the rates for parking at meters, housing and building permits, library fees, parking and traffic violations, property taxes, Grayden pool membership, tennis court access and start charging the kids to play basketball on school courts. We could charge every citizen a fee to just for the privilege to live here.

    The VC could pass a law requiring that all teenagers get and pay for a permit to hang out in town. They could mandate that all bicycles be licensed and charge a fee. Maybe even tricycles too. Extra for Burlies. But why stop there, we could charge a stroller fee (to help offset the cost of making intersections safe from clergy in automobiles) and give discounts to seniors for walkers and canes.

    The revenue we could save and earn is endless all we have to do is be creative, like planting a pine tree in the park and calling it a “Holiday Tree” for a month.

  25. Anonymous said…
    No Tracy, where it is placed is very important. Symbols are important. There was a reason that the Christmas tree was placed at Broad St. and Ridgewood Ave. It is literally the middle of the town.

    Now, no one sees it now hidden in the park. If you look for it while driving down Ridgewood Ave, you are likely to get in an accident for having to take your eyes off the road in your search to find it in the park.

    As for saving money… oh, please if we can’t afford the transportation of a tree once a year, then we got way bigger problems.

    This is just another step to minimize and marginalize Christmas as a Christian Holiday, the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, by our local government.

    Yes, of course symbols are important, but is it less of a symbol of the birth of Christ because it was placed in one area rather than another? And if you re-read my earlier post, you will see that I agreed that the corner of Broad and Ridgewood Avenue was the better of the two locations. It is more visible for everyone to see and enjoy.

    If we’re talking about symbols however, wouldn’t a live tree be a more appropriate symbol to celebrate the birth of Christ than one that has been cut down. Evergreen trees are chosen because they represent eternal life.

  26. This is just another step to minimize and marginalize Christmas as a Christian Holiday, the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, by our local government.

    Since our local government is democracy and not a theocracy, this step is a good thing.

    Celebrate your Christian Holiday in your home or church using your money — not mine!

  27. 221 its a Christmas Tree get your own holiday !!!

  28. So, we need to save money. How about some more ideas our VC could love.

    A six day week – canceling 1 day could save us 1/7th of our costs. Nothing should happen on that day, nothing, just breathing. Just pick any day. I would go for Wednesday. It’s hard to spell anyway.

    Rent space in our enormous Village Hall to other towns. C’mon, do we really need a palace THAT BIG just for us?

    As mentioned above, NO 4th of JULY parade or holiday period. I mean, the nation’s birthday was sooo long ago.

    Get rid of the VC and the BOE. We’ll save a lot of hot air that way and who knows what else.

    Do we really need a town swimming pool? Get rid of Graydon and its subsidy; it’s a chemical laden toxic site anyway. Just think of how much we’ll save on insurance.

    Cops should use horses. Hay is cheaper than gas.

    School should only be 4 days a week. Less bad math to screw up our kids. Let the tutors parents hire fill in the gaps. They do that now anyway.

    Let the Internet be our town library. Close the building down. Have all the library donations go into the now flush town fund.

    Let’s get a blow up doll to be our superintendent. You think anyone will notice? Nah.

    Ignore all state and federal mandates. That should save us a bundle. What are they going to do, invade?

    Make divorce a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 affair. Split everything equally between the husband, wife and town.

    Kids are expensive, pay us a hefty fee if you want to have them.

  29. Isn’t it just like a secular progressive to base Christianity. The same Christianity that brought freedom to mankind, unlike any other religion.

    And for the record, this is a Christian nation and was founded as such, like it or not.

    So all you God hating atheists can go worship at the alter of the ACLU.

    I prefer to celebrate my God given right to freedom in the public square with my fellow Christians. Now bugger off.

  30. How about we deduct from our taxes the amount for the tree and pay for it through private donations.

    Will that appease the Christian haters in this village?

  31. hey 221 next you celebrate your jerk-off day of the minute I will remind you of this

  32. Im for the tree in the park, but they need make EVERYTHING ‘green’
    i.e. getting rid of those giant, one use bulbs. they need to invest in some LEDS.
    They’re brighter and last much, much longer.

  33. Anonymous said…
    So, we need to save money. How about some more ideas our VC could love.

    Let’s get a blow up doll to be our superintendent. You think anyone will notice? Nah.

    And you guys think, I’m entertaining?! This is just too funny!

    Really, Wednesday? I think I’d go with Thursday, myself!

  34. I hereby elect the Belair family Christmas tree on Highland Avenue to be the new Christmas tree of ridgewood, and the other one can be whatever holiday they want to call it tree. Go drive past it, it is glorious. It is what a Christmas tree should look like, and it is live, in their yard, decorated year after year for everyone to enjoy. Thank you, Scott and Bayne, for taking your time and money to have this done. It really makes the season festive!

  35. Anonymous said…
    I hereby elect the Belair family Christmas tree on Highland Avenue to be the new Christmas tree of ridgewood, and the other one can be whatever holiday they want to call it tree. Go drive past it, it is glorious. It is what a Christmas tree should look like, and it is live, in their yard, decorated year after year for everyone to enjoy. Thank you, Scott and Bayne, for taking your time and money to have this done. It really makes the season festive!

    It just seems that planting the new tree at the Broad and Ridgewood Avenue site would have made both those in favor of a more “green” alternative and those who preferred that location happy.
    But alas, I’m just one small voice with an opinion.

  36. The same Christianity that brought freedom to mankind, unlike any other religion.

    Is that the Christianity which launched the Crusades to defeat the Muslims, the Christianity that put Galileo under house arrest, or the Christianity that baptized Adolph Hitler?

  37. how about NO xmas tree?

  38. 2:21 is bitter and jealous.

    I will pray for him.

  39. Anonymous said…
    221 its a Christmas Tree get your own holiday !!!

    2:42 PM

    Well, not to shake up anyone’s tidings of comfort and joy, but a little research on the origins of the “Christmas Tree” will show that it actually began with the Pagans who brought evergreen into their homes to represent eternal life during the dark Winter months. Just sayin’

    It’s fine, call it a Christmas Tree. That’s what I’ve always called it so you’ll hear no complaints from me.

  40. true about the tree but paganism is a religion isnt ?

  41. another great part of our history ruined by the PC POLICE ….its pathetic and very sad and I never thought I be so asamed to live here ,I know thr intentions were well placed but this just sucks

  42. We can leave the recycling tree in the park and have a real Christmas Tree on Broad.

  43. Oh and don’t forget the surveillance cameras. They add that “special something” to every festive event.

  44. disgrace PJ just a plain disgrace

  45. …change…
    The living Christmas Tree in the square is a Beautiful gift of Nature that will continue to grow for future generations enjoyment.

    Maybe the town could put a giant
    20ft or 30ft inflatable Christmas Tree Balloon at Broad and East Ridgewood to pacify those who’ve been acting like disappointed children who didn’t get what they wished for Christmas from Santa.
    Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth!

  46. 4:52 PM,

    You should read a little bit more about history.

    The Pope sent the Crusaders to the Holy lands because Christians and Jews where being persecuted by the Muslims and made to convert or face death. Kinda like what is going on now.

    As for Galileo, that simply is not true. He was never arrested for his scientific discoveries or theories. The story was made up by the English in their determination to discredit the Catholic Church. Since we are an English nation, it has become part of our common beliefs. But it is not true.

  47. Anonymous said…
    …change…
    The living Christmas Tree in the square is a Beautiful gift of Nature that will continue to grow for future generations enjoyment.

    I absolutely agree. But, there are always reasons for more beautiful gifts of Nature…like at the corner of Broad and Ridgewood Avenues!

  48. Anonymous said…
    true about the tree but paganism is a religion isnt ?

    8:29 PM

    Paganism is a term that broadly defines any religion that is polytheistic or that honors more than one God. It’s actually an umbrella term for any religion that is outside Christianity, Judaisim or Islam. Wiccans are Pagans, but so are Hindus and Native Americans.

    You know though, as much as I consider myself a Wiccan, I think that labeling one’s self by what religion we are only serves to further isolate us from each other. Yes, it is a part of who were are, but it isn’t the only part.

    My training included the study of comparative religion. What I found most interesting is the cross over in beliefs in both the Pagan and non-Pagan practices.

    If those whose lives are colored by religious predjudice actually realized how similar our beliefs really are, they would cringe!!!

    A for me, I would celebrate everyone’s religion if I could. I find the differences in people’s cultures, beliefs and practices absolutely facinating!

  49. Ok, so rather than bitch and whine about this, despite how much fun that might be, how do we go about fixing it. Given how many people are dissatisfied, is there something we can do to change it?

  50. I am happy to report that when I walked through town last night the lights on the Christmas Trees were ON; the Van Neste tree, the train station tree and the Mount Carmel tree looks great too. I was really bummed out when the one in the square was not on the other night. I was afraid we had become so green that we decided not to light it. Thank God that appears not to be the case. My wife is still thinks the garbage looks like garbage hanging on the tree but you can’t really see it until you get close. Hopefully next year the kids are allowed to make decorations that look like decorations.

    Also, Tracy, there quite a few Saturnalia traditions that influenced or became part of the Christmas celebration. Still, I don’t think the God Saturn or his son Zeus are going to show up to complain that we Christians stole some of their holiday traditions.

  51. Also, Tracy, there quite a few Saturnalia traditions that influenced or became part of the Christmas celebration. Still, I don’t think the God Saturn or his son Zeus are going to show up to complain that we Christians stole some of their holiday traditions.

    8:28 AM

    Very true Bill. And mine was not a complaint about stolen holidays, but merely to point out that in history, the use of a Christmas tree to celebrate eternal life or the hope of the coming light was not limited to one system of beliefs.

    It sure would be nice if the God Saturn or Zeus would show up and put the tree back on the corner of Broad and Ridgewood Aves though.

  52. bill said…
    I am happy to report that when I walked through town last night the lights on the Christmas Trees were ON; the Van Neste tree, the train station tree and the Mount Carmel tree looks great too. I was really bummed out when the one in the square was not on the other night. I was afraid we had become so green that we decided not to light it. Thank God that appears not to be the case. My wife is still thinks the garbage looks like garbage hanging on the tree but you can’t really see it until you get close. Hopefully next year the kids are allowed to make decorations that look like decorations.

    The other thing that concerned me is the effect of all the foot traffic on Van Neste Park during the celebrations. It really isn’t that big an area. At least with the tree in it’s original location and the street closed to traffic, the crowd would have more of an area to mingle.

  53. Ha Ha! Very funny Tracy! I think we can live with the Christmas Tree where it is. We don’t need Saturn moving trees around and then trying to eat Zeus as they fight on Ridgewood Ave.!

  54. If all the time spent by folks on here debating a tree had been used to write a Xmas card to a serviceman/woman in Iraq and sent it via the USO that would really be doing something in the spirit of Xmas. We debate a tree while young men and woman are still dying in Iraq.

  55. bill said…
    Ha Ha! Very funny Tracy! I think we can live with the Christmas Tree where it is. We don’t need Saturn moving trees around and then trying to eat Zeus as they fight on Ridgewood Ave.!

    Tracy said…

    Oh c’mon Bill!!! Where’s your sense of adventure?!

  56. Bill –

    Re: I am happy to report that when I walked through town last night the lights on the Christmas Trees were ON

    Happy to hear it!

    BTW, did you happen to notice if the Star at the top of the tree was still lit?

    I remember last year the star mysteriously “malfunctioned” and the town with all of its resources and money and manpower and equipment were unable to fix it.

  57. 11:03- I actually just emailed PJ (I hope he posts it) about an effort to send Christmas cards to soldiers recovering at Walter reed medical center. Stay tuned. Something positive for the season. That tree in Van Neste is downright depressing.

  58. Re:
    If all the time spent by folks on here debating a tree had been used to write a Xmas card to a serviceman/woman in Iraq and sent it via the USO that would really be doing something in the spirit of Xmas. We debate a tree while young men and woman are still dying in Iraq.

    Many of us are high functioning individuals able to walk and chew gum at the same time. We can debate local town issues while ALSO writing out Christmas cards and supporting the US Armed Services. I know for a fact that I have done both (and more). How about you?

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  59. I still want our tree back in the middle of town.

    Do you think the VC can admit it was a mistake and reverse itself? Or would that be too humbling and therefore out of the question?

    I am willing to bet that like the BOE, they will hunker down, spin the controversy, dismissing it as only a small minority opinion and move on… business as usual.

  60. Sad to say I don’t think any Ridgewood government body can admit a mistake. When has that ever happened before?

    The tree mistake is truly horrible. We are supposed to make things better for our kids not worse. How dare we adults take away such a wonderful tradition and replace it with a puny pine in the town square park covered with plastic bottles?

    What will it take to just go back to what we had? How do we get the VC to reverse itself?

    What will it take VC?

  61. Christmas is a NATIONAL HOLIDAY. So, the way you tell someone to have a “Happy 4th” or a “Happy Thanksgiving”, saying “Merry Christmas” is appropriate. The tree in the park is a nice idea, and There’s something to be said about a tree that ca be seen from both sides of town. But the decorations were awful: if we did this to decorate the outside of our homes, we’d get a summons for innapropriate disposal of litter and creating an unsightly eyesore. Ms. Zusy is trying to make this whole thing sound inspired, but (pun intended) it’s GARBAGE. I’m sure that she wouldn’t do it to her house.

    A to the woman who was saying that her daughter was loooking for her “ornament” on the tree, this is not how beatuiful communities are built. Don’t you hink that the mental giants who came up with this idea are shortchanging your kids? Why should she joyously look through recyclable waste for garbage with her name on it? Why did she not get instructions to make something pretty? DECORATIVE? Kids need toknow that it takes patience and work to make something beautiful and lasting, and that stringing garbage and putting it in the middle of town is insulting to the intelligence of the taxpayer. Ms Zusy, this idea should go straight to the compost heap!

    Also, in these troubled times, do you really think that we’re attracting shoppers with a pile of garbage in the central spot in our town? Maybe next year the Chamber of Commerce needs to step inand carry more weight on this isuue, and let aesthetically-challenged councilwomen calculate salt needed for thewinter season.

  62. Anonymous said…
    Sad to say I don’t think any Ridgewood government body can admit a mistake. When has that ever happened before?

    The tree mistake is truly horrible. We are supposed to make things better for our kids not worse. How dare we adults take away such a wonderful tradition and replace it with a puny pine in the town square park covered with plastic bottles?

    What will it take to just go back to what we had? How do we get the VC to reverse itself?

    What will it take VC?

    9:59 AM

    I wouldn’t call the new tree a horrible mistake. The tree is actually a lovely addition to Van Neste Park.

    Still, I really don’t see how the VC doesn’t recognize the obvious and perhaps consider putting another tree at the site of the old.

    Imagine, a beautiful live tree being lit on the corners of Broad and Ridgewood Ave, with perhaps the site of the new tree in Van Neste Park being used as a place to gather, listen to music, have some hot apple cider and sing Christmas…uh, I mean “holiday” carols. That is, after all, the kind of charm Ridgewood is known for.

  63. HO, HO, HO, just hold your reindeer for a gosh darn minute. This just wasn’t Zusy’s idea. I distinctly remember Killian championing this cause too.

    As a matter of fact he was in the picture (Ridgewood News) with Zusy and the children touting the “ornaments” made for the tree.

    There is plenty of blame to go around here and the Captain should shoulder his share.

  64. Never has the old adage, “politics makes strange bedfellows,” been more true.

    You know we have lost our moorings when Zusy and Killian are on the same page.

  65. Killian is turning out to be a big disappointment.

  66. Killian is a killjoy! I’m frickin pissed off especially since I voted for him. I didn’t vote for Zusy, who’s nice but ditzy, so I can’t complain the same way about her.

  67. For the taxes we pay in Ridgewood, a garbage-strewn tree is an insult to us the taxpayers, and to our intelligence. We are smart, educated people, who don’t need a lesson in recycling, or not one like this. It is condescending and lazy: they did not instruct the kids to make something pretty out of the recyclables: just put it on the tree, thinking that we’ll feel guilty and not dare complain, given that we’re such consumers…In the process, they’ve insulted our holidays, and uglified the town center.

    I shudder what lessons they’re going to try to teach us with Valentine’s Day decorations, what they’re going to throw on the flag at 4th of July, etc.

    Guys, we live in one of the most wired area in the world, we don’t need lessons from you, and neither do our kids, by what we’ve seen in terms of aesthetics and beauty, so do your job, and take the recyclables where they belong: the transfer station!

  68. Is this the Christianity that brought the crusades…

    Yes it brought the crusades to protect its sacred sites from being desecrated, it also brought Magna Carta, Rennaissance, Western civilization, Western Philosophy, Mozart, Beethoven, Vivaldi, Bach, Duerer, Bosch, some of Dali, the American Constitution, the U.S. promise, The Rights of Man, Geneva convention.

    and the concept of free will: after his baptism, Hitler was free to do ashe pleased as baptism happens in the first 3 mos of life. And i’ll put the mistakes of Christianity up against those of atheism, i.e.: Hitler’s 6+ million Jews, Poles, Czechs, priests, communists, gypsies and disabled. Satlin’s 30 million dead in the Gulag, and 200 million lives ruined for living under communism. Mao’s 40-60 million and Pol Pot’s indoctrination camps, and Christians will definitely lose on that tally.

    So yes, the Christianity that created this country.

  69. 2:40 PM.

    Thank you.

    I could not have said it any better.

  70. My concern with having the tree in the park is when it rains and snows on the tree lighting. In the park people are forced to stand on the grass to view the tree. Imagine that when it is snow covered and/or muddy. You can plow grass…if you do you can risk ripping it up costing money in the spring to reseed it. Also, I noticed a lot of people had strollers. Imagine trying to push a stroller in mud and snow.

    Live tree – Good idea
    Location – Not fully thought out.

  71. Hi Wake-up Ridgewood! Do you know that: The Beautiful Christmas-Holiday tree ( Van Neste Square) has been vandalized with garbage called “art”?
    The decision was imposed by the Village Hall without your consent?
    The new ” architect” of this abonimation is Ms Councilwoman A.Zusy?
    That new semantics or verbal engineering have been introduce in our town such as ” green ornament- decoration, whih means recyclable garbage ., or ” tradition within tradition ( this oxymoron ) , which means, to destroy somoene’s tradition and replace it with something totally contrary to the original intend? If you don’t react, the perspective for the future is.. Welcome to George Orwell’s ” 1984″

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